Crystallization of Cocaine HCL. (Help me please i am in the middle of a extraction)

[MisterAnonymous]

Hello,



I am in the middle of an extraction i know have a 5% Sulfuric Acid Solution with Cocaine Alkeloids i know the next step is oxidation but does someone know wich solvents i need to use to get nice crystal fishscale cocaine? Like this:

I heard make the cocaine base with Aceton and then do recrystallization with Diethyl Ether.

Could that be all or is there more too it ?

Please help me so I can proceed

Thanks in advance.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

1) I'd use Ammonia 4% to turn to base. After crushing and water rinsing a few times heat in water to oil and cold shock then crush that up.

2) Dissolve base in 15 mL acetone per g.

3) Add 0.25 mL per g of Hydrochloric Acid 37% and 0.5 mL per g of Methyl Alcohol (aka Methanol)

4) stir for a minute then cover to keep moisture out. Let sit a few hours.

5) filter precipitate through filter and funnel. But also evap solvents that ran through funnel because you WILL reclaim more that way. There's always some water present and I'm too lazy to make anhydrous. But newly bought shouldn't have much. It's when it's been sitting 9 months and half gone you get problems.

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

A lot of people haven't thought this through about the water and anhydrous and acetone. Acetone DOES dissove cocaine hcl. It'll hold 1g/100ml at 20c. The amount of water that 1/2 a quart of air can hold is less than 1 drop, so you would have to open the bottle and let the acetone absorb all the moisture in the air, then exchange the air and repeat that 20 times to get 1ml of water in it. About 5 grams of molecular seive works below 0c and can dry down to less than 1 part per million over a weeks time. It's reusable, works for lots of solvents, is very good at locking water and it's cheap. 5 grams of 3A will pull 1 g of h2o

 

[Loki12]

What the fuck are you on about? If you are going to wash a couple ounces of cocaine, would you not invest the extra money for ACS grade Acetone? Or use diethyl ether if you are that worried?

And you have me totally puzzled bro.. who the fuck uses acetone to wash product.. or salt product.. at 20 degrees celcius? Buy yourself a used freezer, I guarantee it will serve you better in the long run than the knowledge you memorized about quarts of air drops of water and rest of the shit...

Yes, I have personally used freezing lab grade acetone anhydrous to wash cocaine hcl, I did evaporate the acetone, which I ALWAYS do no matter what I am washing or salting, since IT IS very hygroscopic. However in the quick time, freezing temperature and taking care to cover the vessel in which the salt was stirred, then immediately putting that through a vacuum filter, I never had more than a few grains slip by and I am talking trace amounts you would not notice on a white plate. What usually is left after this process with pure cocaine is a very very tiny amount of trace oils, as the cooks or whoever the fuck processes it clearly do not care about doing proper jobs and acetone being a powerful organic solvent pulls that shit right away.

BTW. For cleaning cocaine hcl I consider the freebase/salting out approach a terrible one. Like I mentioned, if anyone even wants to attempt this, at least work with ANHYDROUS LAB GRADE CHEMICALS - otherwise you will 100% fail.

 

[Loki12]

You get coke in this form by letting it sit, pure cocaine is extremely hygroscopic and therefore lumps up to create rocks like you attached a picture of. You need very pure cocaine for this, anything cut will not shine (not in this way at least) nor create the rocks that you put up an image of. Do not spread it out, make sure it is sitting on top of each other, you want it as close to itself as possible (example: inside a vial).

There are cuts that can make it look similar to this, I will not share what they are because this is a plague in the cocaine world. An experienced dealer or user will immediately spot them however by examining the rocks and most likely will beat your ass for handing him some bullshit, so I would advise against it.

 

[Tovenaar]

One drop of thin bleach will give you the answer if your secret cut is in your cocaine

 

[Loki12]

And which genius theory is this? That bleach will reveal sugars? You realize you can also do this with just water, right? Mannitol, inositol, they will just turn into mush and not dissolve, while pure cocaine can be dissolved with just one drop of distilled water.

Did you notice I do not give advice on how to cut or to detect? I first started cooking crack 15 years ago, so I can only give reliable advice on how it is supposed to look and how the substance behaves, which I do, I say the truth, powder rocks up into what is perceived as "pure cocaine crystals" from humidity.

Now I started selling cocaine and I can tell you that there is so much bullshit, it is hard to even pinpoint which theory you are trying to present. I can also tell you that I tried every common substance and successfully rocked it up into a cocaine crystal, separately and some together - to see if it was possible and to educate myself, but I am not going to go around and tell people to do this. Pure cocaine should be a powder that rocks up, that is all I am saying, nothing more.

 

[Loki12]

Police have also used bleach as a preliminary test for cocaine presence, so I guess your test is not really worth much for detecting cuts if it shows cocaine presence? I can give you the study from which I got this information, would you like the link?

 

[Tovenaar]

You think the shine comes from sugar ? Wake up please. Thin bleach give collor with procaine, procaine give the shine in cut cocaine. That is one of the 7 street tests you could do when buying bigger amounts. Nog every body have acces to an laboratory… and you can say bring to testing point, and wait 1 week you think The seller have still the same batch?

 

[Tovenaar]

You rocked
It up like this with every substance? And still have the same structure and shine? I think you have to look over you shoulder then that the big guys don’t kidnap you to get your secret information out of you. Genius

 

[Loki12]

I asked you what the theory was, since I never heard of it. I asked if bleach was supposed to reveal sugars or some other adulterant. This is why I tried to look for information about it online and found conflicting information about this "bleach test". Please use your brain when you read, it might be easier to understand. If I wrote that I sell the product and that I have been preparing freebase for a long time I think you can infer that I do not believe sugars should give "shine" or for that matter, be anywhere near cocaine.

Thank you though for educating me. I recently started dealing with a bigger lot of the product, so most likely if I found procaine in it or if my reputation was ruined because somebody cut it into the product they sold to me, I think I would just shoot that person.
Years ago the cocaine was so pure and cheap, nobody who asked me to freebase it for them had any issue with "cuts", yes it might have been stepped on, but it was shit like baby laxatives and such.. Me myself, when asked to buy some, never had an issue either and I was not buying from the people I was freebasing for, so when I started with cocaine, learning about all this shit has been really irritating the fuck out of me. I already completed most synthesis on this forum, maybe except the niche ones, OK. Profit margin on making your own kilograms is great, right? Cocaine is even better profit margin, so I do not fucking understand the people that will literally bring in kilograms and start throwing in random shit into the product, risk getting caught, risk their reputation (and really their life at higher levels) for an extra percentage, when it is clear you can do great business by selling it pure. Most of them have no idea of chemistry and have never even looked at the fatal dosages of these products, have not considered they might literally be killing somebody. The whole thing is just WTF to me. Maybe I am just that fucking stupid that there is something I do not see.

Please do list some other street tests you can do, I would like to hear about them and like you see there is a general lack of information about cocaine on this forum, that is what I feel like. If you have the knowledge, please comment on the use of boric acid, lidocaine, bezocaine, these are all readily available substances other than sugars which are commonly used (anyone can see this on ecstasydata so I am not revealing anything), to me their use I believe I can spot within 2 minutes just off appearance, what do you believe? What are your tests? Let's start a dialogue.

 

[Loki12]

5 point crown? I believe that is LKs right? They would not kidnap me bro, I dont think so, I'm pretty tight with those guys

I said I managed to rock up the cocaine into a cocaine crystal, yes, not a cocaine brick. Do you know how many people have even seen pure cocaine in their life? Maybe 1% of the users have an idea of what it is supposed to look like? This is why I stated, here and in other threads, that using these cuts is obvious to experienced users and sellers. Maybe I would fool some guy off the street with my re-rock, but I did also state.. if you read carefully.. that I did it for my own amusement and to see what it looked like, to educate my own self, you get it? Even if the product looked passable, I still ended up throwing it away.

 

[Loki12]

And before I log off, in my humble opinion, I would not buy that brick unless I cut into it first. I have seen some real masters of creating this outer layer that looks correct, but when you touch it, it sounds like popcorn and when portioning you can tell something is off right away.

I know I might sound like a prick, it is just long hours and detoxing off medication I have been on since the nineties. Don't mind me. I hope we can strike up a productive conversation, if you can teach me something, I am all for it. I will be on later, have a good one, brotherman.

 

[Zedbundy]

Did you have any luck with getting powder back to that form?

 

[Loki12]

Bro literally put the pure cocaine in a dessicator, instead of drying, put a couple of drops of distilled water on a piece of filter paper or even cotton, lock that together and wait a week... If it is pure, then it will rock. This is not a fucking rocket science issue, there is just a ton of bullshit being told by everyone since everyone is trying to put their cut on it and will not tell you this simple fact.

I get my cocaine sometimes dry, sometimes already rocked up.. always pure.. what is the difference? The level of humidity it was exposed to (some smugglers also dry it out to pack it tighter, but that is a diff story).

You all need to ask yourself this - when cocaine is imported into EU now and there are makeshift labs to process the caine into consumable salt, ya'll really believe there is two approaches these "chemists" take when running the process? To make one cocaine that shines and one that does not? No, they want to do it as simply and quickly as possible, consider what I am saying to you.. It is the same cocaine pure that is powder which can also be a rock, you do not even need a press or anything like this.

Now the consistency of a true cocaine rock should be like cold butter, if you cannot cut into it with a razor blade and it is shooting all over the place forcing you to use a credit card to crush it... that shit is cut and you should cut your supplier also.